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A Deeper Insight Into The Group Psychology Of The Irish Swp

category dublin | rights, freedoms and repression | opinion/analysis author Tuesday November 01, 2011 13:59author by socialist - none Report this post to the editors

Why is there a total absence of fairness, equality or accountability in the SWP?

Weak leadership, cowardice, duplicity, the faults of the SWP are symptomatic of a deeper problem.

Pyscho-analayists term the darkest of our human traits the dark triad of Machiavellians, Psychopaths and Narcissists. With a critical mass of narcissists in an organisation it becomes effectively the same as a dangerous narcisstic individual. A study published in the journal Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin suggests that when a group is without a leader, you can often count on a narcissist to take charge. Researchers found that people who score high in narcissism tend to take control of leaderless groups. The motto of the narcissistic leader is ‘others exist to admire me’. People are seen as an ‘it’ rather than a human being. If a member is a good minion for postering well and good but if he gets sick and is no longer useful, forget it, point to the revolving door. They have no regrets and are indifferent to the steady stream of disposable comrades they send through the revolving door-a system that should not be imported into the ULA.

Narcissism becomes unhealthy when the narcissists have no consideration for others. The narcissistic leader craves much more to be admired than to be loved. They aggressively pursue their own goals regardless of the bad effect it may have on others. Such narcissists can seem to be empathic (but this is a con) they empathise selectively and try to destroy anyone who fails to believe in their pursuit of glory. A narcissistic leader typically lacks a feeling of self-worth, which gives him a shaky centre and an inability to perceive constructive criticism as anything other than an attack. Without much of a grasp on reality they will find it difficult to adapt to harsh realities. They ignore wise counsel and surround themselves with sycophants leading the group in the wrong direction.

Collective narcissism has been researched by Agnieszka Golec de Zavala and her collaborators. They define collective narcissism as a form of’ ‘in-group identification tied to an emotional investment in an unrealistic belief about the unparalleled greatness of an in-group’. Because a narcissist group is hypersensitive to criticism they only wish to hear selective data to support their doctrine. They will always prefer to preach than to listen. A healthy narcissistic leader would be open to criticism and reality-checks. ‘When we start to look upon Freud, or Muhammad, or whomever, as unquestionable authorities, then we are falling prey to narcissistic idealisation’ Likewise, when we subscribe to the social group as a sphere of perfect cleanliness, void of the "destructive influence" of independent thinkers, then we fall prey to group narcissism. Unhealthy narcissism in group form pumps up grandiosity, creating a false self-image, which permeates all aspects of how the organisation operates. They have no problem with distorting, downplaying or withholding information to maintain the pride of the group. Engaging in outright flattery and adulation to give the whole group a feeling of superiority they will protect themselves at any cost from any pinprick of reality into this bubble of self-congratulation. A healthy group narcissism would manifest as a healthy pride in a meaningful mission. The trouble with unhealthy group narcissism is that it has an inflated pride built on a desperate grasp for glory rather than any real accomplishment.

In general they expect to hear only messages confirming their own sense of their own greatness. Any data that does not fit the grandiose false self-image will be ignored. The rank and file benefit from this skewed filter on reality and become willing to bend the truth to share in the rosy feelings of group self-adulation and ego-inflation. This kind of fakery results in an absence of any real, authentic connection between comrades. The whole group must tacitly collude to maintain their shared illusions. Work becomes a charade and suppression and paranoia become Omni-present. A narcissistic organisation may ostensibly ask for truth and candour but encourages duplicity. Shared illusions flourish in direct proportion to the suppression of the truth. Anyone who threatens the self-flattery even with vital information threatens to bring the group down off its narcissistic high to a deflated feeling of shame, failure or embarrassment.

An organisation suffering from group narcissism like the Irish SWP can have no real political morality because it operates within a moral universe of its own. That the group’s inherent goodness, goals or means should not be questioned becomes an absolute. That everything it does and says is good becomes holy writ. The self-celebration creates a fog divorcing the group from reality. The rules don’t apply to the narcissistic organisation, rules are for other people. Rules are for the squares, accountability is for mainstream parties. They have a strong self-serving bias taking credit for successes but never blame for failure.

The narcissistic idealisation is often mistaken for a natural and healthy form of appreciation of other people. This is a great problem, as pathology is allowed to hide behind a respectable mask. It's the same thing with group narcissism. Its devotees are often mistaken for nice fellows, socially mature, respectful towards other people. Nothing could be farther from the truth. It is a chimera. Such people are only providing for their own narcissism by way of reflection in the group. Scratch on the surface, and a nasty intolerance appears. Many psychologists tend to view the social group as an ideal for the individual to attain which is actually an oversimplification. Those psychologists are blind to the fact that there is a pathological version of social life called group narcissism.

Collective narcissism is a predictor of ‘inter-group hostility, unforgiveness, and prejudice’. They interpret ambiguous inter-group situations as threatening the in-group's positive image and react with cowardly passive-aggression. They also express prejudice against other groups with similar goals because they are seen as threatening their in-group's false self-image. Any threats to the group-ego are met with hypersensitivity (it is far too easy to get a rise out of them). Any of their own members who threaten the narcissistic high with a reality check will be typically elbowed out or demoted. They turn politics into a Vanity Fair where the best sycophants will be promoted to inner circles by playing to the vanity of those at the top of hierarchies. The academic elitism leads to a pretentious atmosphere more like university society meetings than you would expect in revolutionary times and a fake bonhomie that would not be tolerated in Greece, Spain or Egypt.

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   the swp are big into group think as their inaction on the Libya coup proves     group lemming    Mon Nov 07, 2011 14:52 
   the swp's flaws are rooted in their trotyskist politics     leon the mad prophet    Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:44 
   whats wrong with trotsky?     trot    Tue Nov 08, 2011 13:26 
   hyper emotions     Nerney    Wed Nov 09, 2011 01:41 
   are the swp in the pay of the imperialists?     hot to trot    Wed Nov 09, 2011 20:21 
   Trotskyism is the wrong answer for Ireland     curious    Wed Nov 09, 2011 20:38 
   Ad-hominen ad-nauseam     Brían ó Cualáin    Wed Nov 09, 2011 21:46 
   WSM members, fergan finnegan, Padraic stack and alan mcsimeon     facts v fiction    Wed Nov 09, 2011 23:08 
   For the information of "anti-war"     An Draighneán Donn    Thu Nov 10, 2011 06:42 
 10   Insulting     Anti War    Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:09 
 11   I witnessed prominent SWP and United Left Alliance members on Libyan reactionary rebel protests     former swp member    Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:42 
 12   Not black and white     Brían ó Cualáin    Fri Nov 11, 2011 19:27 
 13   Impossible     An Draighneán Donn    Sat Nov 12, 2011 01:27 
 14   another thread is more appropriate for this     wageslave    Sat Nov 12, 2011 02:59 
 15   The SWP dont just support CIA backed reactionaries in Libya look at what they are doing on Dame St.     interested onlooker    Sat Nov 12, 2011 13:56 
 16   Former members like Rosa Lichenstein object to the anti democratic methods of the swp     former trot    Sat Nov 12, 2011 14:15 
 17   academic - ten a penny     and...    Sat Nov 12, 2011 19:19 
 18   they annoy me too     Nora B    Sat Nov 12, 2011 19:26 
 19   Rosa Lichenstein has been refuting the swp's dialectic nonsense for 30 years now     Rosa Lichenstein fan    Sat Nov 12, 2011 19:44 
 20   The big flaw in the the SWP is their Democratic Centralism     aunty D. Centralist    Sat Nov 12, 2011 19:59 
 21   swp are just too boring     nora b    Sat Nov 12, 2011 19:59 
 22   anti-war?     An Draighneán Donn    Sat Nov 12, 2011 23:18 
 23   why bother     Brían ó Cualáin    Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:25 
 24   Gadaffi certainly was a more benevolent dictator than Trotsky the butcher of Kronstadt     truth hurts    Sun Nov 13, 2011 15:23 
 25   off-topic     Brían ó Cualáin    Sun Nov 13, 2011 15:45 
 26   fraternising with cia backed thugs is undeniable Brian     freedom of speech    Sun Nov 13, 2011 16:29 
 27   the point     Brían ó Cualáin    Sun Nov 13, 2011 17:16 
 28   Defending Marxism against the SWP     Felix Quigley    Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:30 
 29   very erudite, felix..     opus diablos    Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:15 
 30   why is the word hippy such an insult for right wingers and SWP members?     hippy and proud    Mon Nov 14, 2011 13:40 
 31   lost in translation     Brían ó Cualáin    Mon Nov 14, 2011 13:41 
 32   '..a recognised authority on Marxism..'     opus diablos    Mon Nov 14, 2011 14:11 
 33   to the Marx reader     Brían ó Cualáin    Mon Nov 14, 2011 14:19 
 34   I have an opinion     opus diablos    Mon Nov 14, 2011 14:47 
 35   Long live Hippies, Down with dogma and jargon     I am Spartacus and Hippy    Mon Nov 14, 2011 17:22 
 36   I agree time to lose the jargon and dogma and extreme defensiveness     anti Dialectics    Mon Nov 14, 2011 17:29 
 37   great essay? enlighten us please     Brían ó Cualáin    Mon Nov 14, 2011 18:46 
 38   Libyan issue points to the grave degeneration of the Irish SWP     Felix Quigley    Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:25 
 39   Brian of the SWP     An Draigneán Donn    Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:33 
 40   tiresome     Brían ó Cualáin    Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:59 
 41   ask questions     questioner    Tue Nov 15, 2011 13:24 
 42   @brian     opus diablos    Tue Nov 15, 2011 13:25 
 43   The swp are now degenerate subjective idealists     anti imperialist    Tue Nov 15, 2011 21:12 
 44   As a former student of Psychology I welcome socialists Essay on group Narcissism in the SWP     psychological socialist    Tue Nov 15, 2011 22:01 
 45   the SWP are now subjective idealists, we need a new party     new voter    Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:19 
 46   Please read the document and respond to it instead of going off topic     swp supporter    Wed Nov 16, 2011 11:48 
 47   nice distortions     opus diablos    Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:15 
 48   Thainking for oneself-a dangerous concept.     Rational Ecologist.    Wed Nov 16, 2011 13:54 
 49   you'll know so..RE     opus diablos    Wed Nov 16, 2011 14:25 
 50   Agreed.     Rational Ecologist.    Wed Nov 16, 2011 14:36 
 51   Ireland needs a new party but not a trotsyist party     republican socialist    Wed Nov 16, 2011 21:18 
 52   anti-democracy party     torabora    Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:40 
 53   Socialist Party are a cult that are even more undemocratic than the SWP     libertarian    Thu Nov 17, 2011 18:23 
 54   Militant did provide cover for Labour Party reactionaries, its new role is its SWP love affair     left winger    Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:07 
 55   very possibly, LW     opus diablos    Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:21 
 56   Please try to stay on topic!!!!!!!!!     wageslave    Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:24 
 57   sorry, ws     opus diablos    Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:39 
 58   @opus     wageslave    Sun Nov 20, 2011 13:57 
 59   counter revolutionaries     osa    Sun Nov 20, 2011 18:26 
 60   I used to be an SWP member     Anon    Tue Dec 27, 2011 07:27 
 61   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Mon Mar 19, 2012 09:55 
 62   Welcome Rosa, to Indymedia.ie     Rosa fan    Thu Apr 05, 2012 15:18 
 63   Well that’s all done and dusted then.     JoeMc    Fri Apr 06, 2012 13:02 
 64   Wishful thinking     An Draighneán Donn    Wed Apr 11, 2012 02:32 
 65   Who is Rosa Lichenstein, and why would anyone quote her?     An Draighneán Donn    Wed Apr 11, 2012 02:41 
 66   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:45 
 67   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:53 
 68   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Wed Apr 18, 2012 13:25 
 69   er..Rosa..     opus diablos    Wed Apr 18, 2012 13:27 
 70   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Wed Apr 18, 2012 16:02 
 71   so..     opus diablos    Wed Apr 18, 2012 16:26 
 72   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Wed Apr 18, 2012 18:43 
 73   ta     opus diablos    Thu Apr 19, 2012 08:57 
 74   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:01 
 75   one more time     opus diablos    Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:46 
 76   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Thu Apr 19, 2012 13:45 
 77   ah, so...     opus diablos    Thu Apr 19, 2012 15:40 
 78   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Thu Apr 19, 2012 16:26 
 79   don't feed the trolls....     wageslave    Thu Apr 19, 2012 20:14 
 80   which was..     opus diablos    Thu Apr 19, 2012 22:31 
 81   no more troll induced bunfights please     wageslave    Fri Apr 20, 2012 03:05 
 82   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Tue Apr 24, 2012 01:14 
 83   Reply     Rosa Lichtenstein    Tue Apr 24, 2012 01:15 
 84   no problem Rosa..     wageslave    Tue Apr 24, 2012 02:24 
 85   Reply to wageslave     Rosa Lichtenstein    Thu Apr 26, 2012 01:40 
 86   well embedded, are we, Rosa..?     opus diablos    Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:41 
 87   little point     opus diablos    Thu Apr 26, 2012 13:39 
 88   Reply to Opeless     Rosa Lichtenstein    Thu Apr 26, 2012 22:47 
 89   Ever Opeful     Rosa Lichtenstein    Thu Apr 26, 2012 22:51 
 90   I give up!     wageslave    Fri Apr 27, 2012 05:57 
 91   No bother, ws..     opus diablos    Fri Apr 27, 2012 09:42 
 92   opus, you have solicited my personal opinion so FWIW here it is...     wageslave    Sat Apr 28, 2012 04:18 
 93   no problem, ws...     opus diablos    Sat Apr 28, 2012 07:20 
 94   Suggested subject for "Full news article"     W. Finnerty    Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:40 
 95   ok , W...     opus diablos    Sat Apr 28, 2012 21:47 
 96   back on topic please.     wageslave    Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:01 


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