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Lisbon and class - the missing analysis

category national | miscellaneous | opinion/analysis author Monday July 07, 2008 14:25author by Paul Bowman - WSM Report this post to the editors

Lisbon No: A Class Act

As the morning of Friday 13th of June grew towards midday, the government and ... realised with mounting horror that they had not only lost the referendum for the Lisbon treaty, but had lost badly. In the end, with a turnout higher than both Nice referendums and European elections, the Irish electorate had cast more No votes, than the number that elected the FF government last year.

In the days that followed the media commentators in press, radio and television, groped around blindly for arguments or reasons why the people have rejected the appeals of the united front of political parties and bosses to "do the right thing" and rubber-stamp this treaty.

But amongst all the outpouring of words from the chatterati, one theme, indeed Friday the 13th's most striking and historic theme, has been missing. A wise man once said "listen for the silences". In this deluge of punditry there has been an almost total silence over "the big C".

As in class, not cancer. The results of this referendum show a vote split along class lines that has not been seen so clearly since the founding of the Republic. Indeed, given that the referendum basically came down to a question of "do you believe that your interests are the same as those of the political elites who have concocted this treaty and grown rich on the back of EU expansion and the celtic tiger?", the result is no mystery at all. The middle class have mostly agreed - why wouldn't they. The working class are naturally more sceptical and unwilling to sign a blank cheque for those who have plundered while leaving our schools, hospitals and infrastructure to crumble.

So in the face of the remarkable unity of the European ruling classes behind this initiative that we remarked upon before the referendum, the Irish working class has responded with it's own unity in a clear-sighted refusal to give legitimacy to a treaty that sought to trick it's way past democratic accountability by shrouding its real designs in a deliberately impenetrable fog of bureaucratic
gobbledegook.

It's an old cliche to say that Dev would be spinning in his grave, but the event that is the referendum result has broken the post civil-war bipartisan consensus that, no matter what else, class politics was the one thing that had to be avoided at all costs in this state.

Of course one swallow does not make a summer, but this event is like the sudden spark in the night that illuminates a scene for a brief instant and reveals a hitherto hidden scene. A very different social picture from the smug triumphalism of the FF 2007 election victory. The referendum result is not only a crisis for the constitution of a bosses Europe, but also the beginnings of a political breakdown of the FF/FG excommunication of class politics from Irish society.

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This article is from the forthcoming Workers Solidarity 104, its first published online on indymedia.ie

Related Link: http://www.wsm.ie/lisbon

 #   Title   Author   Date 
   Class and the Lisbon vote     margaret    Tue Jul 08, 2008 22:47 
   Class and the no vote     Roger Cole    Wed Jul 09, 2008 00:02 
   This is not analysis     Libertarian    Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:40 
   Causality     Gaz B -(A)-    Thu Jul 10, 2008 06:44 
   Never meant to be analysis     Paul    Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:01 
   Take serious caution when dismissing democracy as 'bourgeois luxury'     Libertarian    Thu Jul 10, 2008 13:43 
   Beam in your own eye     Chekov    Thu Jul 10, 2008 14:06 
   I think you've misunderstood Paul     Aragon    Thu Jul 10, 2008 14:24 
   The haughty heights of anarcho intellectualism     Libertarian    Thu Jul 10, 2008 15:22 
 10   Translation     Andrew    Thu Jul 10, 2008 15:44 
 11   Oh, somebody's feelings are hurt....     Chekov    Thu Jul 10, 2008 16:54 
 12   Guys! Really! Take it outside, well ye?     Aragon    Thu Jul 10, 2008 17:39 
 13   C2DE     R2D2    Thu Jul 10, 2008 18:22 
 14   Strange entirely     .    Thu Jul 10, 2008 19:30 
 15   Propaganda     Barry    Thu Jul 10, 2008 21:11 
 16   An invitation to a conference -     MichaelY    Thu Jul 10, 2008 21:36 
 17   An omission     MichaelY    Thu Jul 10, 2008 21:39 
 18   Luxury has nothing to do with it     Paul    Thu Jul 10, 2008 23:40 
 19   Paul     Aragon    Fri Jul 11, 2008 00:48 
 20   Chekov is a Hegelian now!!?     Ois    Fri Jul 11, 2008 02:51 
 21   'No' vote-definitely not a right wing vote     P.Sephologist    Fri Jul 11, 2008 03:23 
 22   Typo     Ois    Fri Jul 11, 2008 03:39 
 23   A proper attempt at identifying the class basis of No voters     Libertarian    Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:10 
 24   champagne what?     topcat    Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:53 
 25   er, that would be a COPYRIGHTED Irish Times article...     champagne socialist    Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:29 
 26   Re: Aragon, democracy     Paul    Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:22 
 27   Questions     Aragon    Fri Jul 11, 2008 13:37 
 28   Paul     non-Leninist Marxist    Fri Jul 11, 2008 14:15 
 29   Forgot this     Aragon    Fri Jul 11, 2008 14:25 
 30   Re: Questions     Paul    Fri Jul 11, 2008 16:36 
 31   Comrade Michale Y     Joe Byrne    Fri Jul 11, 2008 16:45 
 32   democracy and anarchism     Dec Mc Carthy    Fri Jul 11, 2008 17:46 
 33   To clarify     Chekov    Fri Jul 11, 2008 18:12 
 34   Paul - suggestion     Aragon    Fri Jul 11, 2008 20:15 
 35   People seem to overlook democracy was a product of capitalism.     non voter    Sat Jul 12, 2008 17:57 
 36   Answer to Joe B above     MichaelY    Sat Jul 12, 2008 19:09 
 37   The history of democracy     Aragon    Sat Jul 12, 2008 19:45 
 38   Democracy 5th C. BCE     Paul    Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:21 


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