2nd day of very unhappy students in Kabul

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Thursday May 12, 2005 12:57

by io

Kabul is the capital of Afghanistan.
the USA have over 16,000 troops there, under two commands, (one looks for Osama and the other is part of a build Afghani identity force) but the stability and contra-narcotraffic operations of the World community are in the hands of the ISAF force, and the majority are €uropean.

Young people are very upset, there because they are muslim, and reports have reached them that US interrogators on an island off of Cuba, have desecrated a Koran. US interrogators are not muslim. Cuba isn't muslim either. This is thus a story of Globalisation.

not everyone's cup of tea.

So far today-
"Students in the Afghan capital shouted "Death to America" and burned an American flag on Thursday in a protest over a report that U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had desecrated the Koran.

Several hundred students gathered in front of Kabul University, a day after a similar protest in an eastern city degenerated into rioting and four people were killed and dozens wounded.

Newsweek magazine said in a recent edition that investigators probing abuses at the U.S. military prison in Cuba had found interrogators "had placed Korans on toilets, and in at least one case flushed a holy book down the toilet".

Muslims consider the Koran the literal word of God and treat each book with deep reverence.

The U.S. military says the report is being investigated.

"We've heard from all the radio and newspapers, and also we've read on Internet sites, that the holy Koran has been insulted by American soldiers," said Kabul University student Manan Shiewa.

"The people who have done this action should be punished ... We are ready to continue our strong demonstrations in all universities in Afghanistan."

Police watched the protest from a distance but made no attempt to break it up. No foreign troops were in the vicinity.

The protest ended after about two hours with no violence or arrests.

The United States commands a foreign force in Afghanistan of about 18,300, most of them American, fighting Taliban insurgents and hunting Taliban and al Qaeda leaders, including Osama bin Laden, architect of the September 11 attacks on U.S. cities."

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5776912&cKey=1115886017000

Yesterday 4 deaths-
"Afghan police opened fire on protesters on Wednesday killing four and wounding dozens after violent demonstrations over a report that U.S. interrogators at Guantanamo Bay had desecrated the Koran.

U.S. forces in the conservative Muslim city of Jalalabad, 130 km east of the capital Kabul, were called back to base when the trouble began and left Afghan authorities to handle it, at their request, a U.S. spokeswoman said.

Government offices were set on fire, shops looted and U.N. buildings and diplomatic missions attacked as thousands of people took to the streets chanting "Death to America".

Police fired several times to disperse crowds. Four people had been killed and 52 wounded, provincial health chief Fazel Mohammad Ibrahimi said, citing information from city hospitals. State television said four people were dead and 40 wounded."

http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5772639&cKey=1115845519000

The president of Afghanistan Hamid Karzai, was almost voted the best dressed global politician by readers of Esquire magazine, but lost to rapper Andre 3000 of Outkast in the 2004 competition-
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=3407

Afghanistan on the Web-

with the slogan "Afghanistan: The Friendliest Country in the World, Possibly the Universe."
http://www.afghan-web.com/index.html

with no slogan-
http://afghanistannews.net/

with the helpful introductory paragraph "When you think Afghanistan Imagine: Where 20 years of war has totally crippled the economy, and you must try to somehow survive day-by-day by scrounging enough food to feed your children. Where people do not have the facilities to receive an education. Where people do not have the facilities to receive treatment at hospitals. Where, on average, men die at 40 years of age and women at 43. Where hundreds of thousands of people are maimed, disabled, or blind because of war and land mines. Where you face a high chance of becoming blind or crippled because of the lack of fresh fruit and vegetables, causing vitamin deficiency. If you are blind or crippled, no one can help you because those that are not blind or crippled need help as well."
http://www.afghanistans.com/

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As a consequence

by saf

Thu May 12, 2005 13:05

neighbouring Pakistan (also muslim) has decided to complain (bitterly) to the USA and accordingly is refusing to hand over (suspected) numero tres of the Global smershie fundamentalist heirs of the NAZIs (but not kathurlick) enemies of Georgie Porgey Bush, (and probably behind the soviet era grenade) (and most definetly behind the airplane) (and probably influencing the votes for best dressed politician) AL QAEDA! (strong language there).

apart from the deft use of "numero tres" this has nothing to do with Cuba, which is rather in an axis of near evil with Venezuala which has nothing to do with smack either, and people would be cathurlick if they weren't communists and anti-german instead.

All eyes are on North Korea now, and how this will effect future best dressed politician competitions.

not cuban, not american, not drinking tea, not a student, not a smack dealer, not a communist, not a taliban, not a german speaker

And where did this story come from?

by A10

Thu May 12, 2005 13:27

NEWSWEEK.Another leftwing attitude American "newsmagazine" that thinks it has the responsibility to print every damn thing.wonder if even the story is true?if it comes from Time or Newsweek,I would be doubly suss of its truth.

story of emotive and symbolic abuse of religious symbolism in US detention centre off of Cuba.

by -

Thu May 12, 2005 15:09

have circulated for some time. the BBC speaks urdu and she's asked the questions. The Very well dressed Afghan president has confirmed that these ultimate hours have shown his regime incapable of keeping order, and speaking in Brussels, the small capital of the Stalinist republic of Belgium earlier today said afghanis will need foreign military advisors for many years to come (as long as the US are thought to flush korans down the toilet). President Bush, (has been photographed with a koran and on the toilet butno t with the koran on the toilet) is recovering from the news that both his vice-president and the visiting Nancy Reagan, (widow of the popular president Ronnie) were evacuated from the White House yesterday when a little plane (unarmed) came within several kilometers of the complex in Washington.
He will though speak words of comfort (to us all) on this topic a.s.a.p. This will bring back the dead afghani protesters from the dead, (naturally) as at the moment one doesn't really know if they can be properly be classified as martyrs or not and if something isn't done soon enough, they'll go to limbö.

each inmate gets

by - - sickening isn't it?

Thu May 12, 2005 15:15

one bucket for washing water
one bucket for emergency toilet
I can not confirm how many flushable toilets are in Guantanamo. I can tell you there are still many prisoners and that generally Guantanamo hasn't gone away, unlike Saddams' regime which has gone away.
That's history now. If you had any vouchers from Saddam's regime, they're worthless now. Still you might sell them over the internet to private collectors.

probably supplied by the lowest bidder that is the capitalist way

won't be tolerated!

by $

Fri May 13, 2005 10:30

"Disrespect for the Holy Koran is not now, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be, tolerated by the United States," Condoleezza Rice -
Speaking before a Senate committee, Ms Rice urged Muslims in America and throughout the world to stop the violence, yesterday.

"I am asking that all our friends around the world reject incitement to violence by those who would mischaracterise our intentions," she said.

Disrespect for the Holy Koran is not now, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be, tolerated by the United States
Condoleezza Rice
US Secretary of State
"Appropriate action" would be taken if the allegations proved true, she added.

"Disrespect for the Holy Koran is not now, nor has it ever been, nor will it ever be, tolerated by the United States," she said.

There- she said it a lot, to make it seem real.

Meanwhile 7 people are dead, due to the emotive reaction of people in far off places who do not fully realise that disrespect for the Holy Koran is not now nor has it ever been nor will it ever be tolerated by the United States.

Newsweek's Editor Mark Whittaker's statement on the withdrawl of the story which led to 9 deaths

Tue May 17, 2005 12:27

The Editor's Desk
Newsweek

May 23 issue - Did a report in NEWSWEEK set off a wave of deadly anti-American riots in Afghanistan? That's what numerous news accounts suggested last week as angry Afghans took to the streets to protest reports, linked to us, that U.S. interrogators had desecrated the Qur'an while interrogating Muslim terror suspects. We were as alarmed as anyone to hear of the violence, which left at least 15 Afghans dead and scores injured. But I think it's important for the public to know exactly what we reported, why, and how subsequent events unfolded.

Two weeks ago, in our issue dated May 9, Michael Isikoff and John Barry reported in a brief item in our Periscope section that U.S. military investigators had found evidence that American guards at the detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, had committed infractions in trying to get terror suspects to talk, including in one case flushing a Qur'an down a toilet. Their information came from a knowledgeable U.S. government source, and before deciding whether to publish it we approached two separate Defense Department officials for comment. One declined to give us a response; the other challenged another aspect of the story but did not dispute the Qur'an charge.

RELATED STORY

The Islamic World: How a Fire Broke Out

Although other major news organizations had aired charges of Qur'an desecration based only on the testimony of detainees, we believed our story was newsworthy because a U.S. official said government investigators turned up this evidence. So we published the item. After several days, newspapers in Pakistan and Afghanistan began running accounts of our story. At that point, as Evan Thomas, Ron Moreau and Sami Yousafzai report this week, the riots started and spread across the country, fanned by extremists and unhappiness over the economy.

Last Friday, a top Pentagon spokesman told us that a review of the probe cited in our story showed that it was never meant to look into charges of Qur'an desecration. The spokesman also said the Pentagon had investigated other desecration charges by detainees and found them "not credible." Our original source later said he couldn't be certain about reading of the alleged Qur'an incident in the report we cited, and said it might have been in other investigative documents or drafts. Top administration officials have promised to continue looking into the charges, and so will we. But we regret that we got any part of our story wrong, and extend our sympathies to victims of the violence and to the U.S. soldiers caught in its midst.

—Mark Whitaker

Editor's Note: On Monday afternoon, May 16, Whitaker issued the following statement: Based on what we know now, we are retracting our original story that an internal military investigation had uncovered Qur'an abuse at Guantanamo Bay.
© 2005 Newsweek, Inc.

Raza Academy, a Muslim organization, protest the alleged desecration of the Qur'an at the U.S. detention centre in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in Bombay, India, Monday

that our constitution of Eire

by believing

Tue May 17, 2005 21:08

an bunreacht (the little blue book) does not tolerate pleni-potenitiary statements being made by any representative of a foreign power on flushing holy books down the toilet according to our nefarious neutrality status.

Condolence Rice is a presbytarian.

If she wants to make statements like the one at shannon she slipped in for our spin and comment, she should bring her tolerance to ulster and preach there.

Condolence Rice has not hoodwinked us.
Not till you kiss the holy book, you hussey of Babylon, will you get even a wee bit of respect up north.
(let that be a warning to you)

And how many dead again was it? in this futile exercise to encourage self-censorship in US media as the focus of your home secretary career melds into the foreign? Everywhere you go, people die. So don't go to ulster after all. Or Croatia.

USA drops leadership claims in ISAF western afghanistan operations.

by ribbid ribbid moo moo woof woof

Tue May 31, 2005 13:55

as one of the consequences of events in recent months, such as the "koran flushing story" and the stinging allegations of torture and human rights abuses brought by "best dressed world leader" Karzai to his washington meeting with Bush,
the US have completely resigned their command of foreign troops in western Afghanistan and have confirmed that they're not going to try and direct the operation anymore.

"NATO troops took command of security and reconstruction efforts in western Afghanistan from U.S. forces on Tuesday under a plan that will likely soon put NATO forces into insurgent hot spots.
NATO took charge of civilian-military Provincial Reconstruction Teams (PRT) in Herat and Farah provinces which have seen factional and other violence, but not Taliban attacks that have plagued the southern and eastern parts of the country.
"It is ... ISAF's first critical step into the western region of Afghanistan, which will allow ISAF to more effectively support the upcoming ... elections," said Lieutenant General Ethem Erdagi, commander of the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force.
Parliamentary elections in September are Afghanistan's next big step on a rocky road to stability.
ISAF is a peace-keeping force that numbers about 8,000 troops from 47 NATO and non-NATO countries. NATO took command of ISAF in 2003, its first mission outside its Europe-Atlantic area of operation.
The United States leads a separate international force of 18,300, most of them Americans, fighting Taliban insurgents and hunting for Osama bin Laden and other militants in the south and east.
The Provincial Reconstruction Teams are at the heart of the international community's efforts in Afghanistan. Small groups of civilians and military personnel working in the provinces, the teams are meant to provide security for aid and reconstruction.
Several hundred Italian troops are taking over the PRT in Herat while in Farah, to the south, U.S. troops will play a lead role but under ISAF command, the force said. Both provinces are on the Iranian border."
http://www.swissinfo.org/sen/swissinfo.html?siteSect=143&sid=5832177&cKey=1117539311000
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the reshaping of the military presence in western afghanistan counts on an increased spanish military presence, Spain has recently almost doubled its force on the Iranian border.

The "search for Osama" campaign in the east is increasingly relying on french special forces.

Changes are also afoot in other strategic areas, "where-are-you-know" George Soros has cut back assistance to his varying thinktank and humanitarian organisations in the mid asia region as a consequence of the unrest in Uzbekistan.
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on a more practical note, this years opium crop will be marginally down. remember it takes 2 years for that crop to make it to your street in its adulterated little wraps of problem crime woe.
The slight reduction is a result of increased crop-destruction the favoured methodology of the USA and DEA, which runs completely counter to the work of other agencies in alleviating poverty and contributing to the wellbeing of the poorest citizens of the mid Asian region. The farmers are merely growing a crop, for money. It is their cash crop. Destroying it, pushes production into yet more and more "sticky" (pun) areas of the region, but looks good in "counter propagation propaganda terms". (punning today).
It would be more useful to simply take out the criminals who refine and move the global market wouldn't it? Oh yes. Then the price would jump, and bingo your dvd is gone to the hock. Oooooo its very complicated isn't it?
yes.
it is.

its very complicated. beautiful little flower, part of the garden, very abused and maligned.

ping

by ping

Fri Jul 15, 2005 13:29

ping

close Guantanamo!

The british legal establishment has maintained for several years that the camp was illegal, and breached the rule of law.

The British political establishment chose not to critise its ally the USA and moreover did not react properly in a sensitive way to the religious sensibilities of its citizens [of any denomination] to the desecration.

This was a grevious fault of the Blair regime.
one of many.

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2nd day of very unhappy students in Kabul

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