Dublin Council of Trade Unions may adopt 1 of a number of strategies about the Anti bin tax campaign

by pat c Thu Nov 06, 2003 17:14

The agenda for next weeks meeting is already set. The DCTU Executive Ctte meet on the first Tuesday of the Month and set the agenda for the delegate meeting on the second Tuesday. The fact that you didnt even know this shows that you are a trollwho knows nothing about the DCTU.

by USI insider Thu Nov 06, 2003 18:35

It was great to see that the UCDSU mobilised to defend one of their members. What is the USI going to do when our right to protest is attacked? compared to the USI, the DCTU are revolutionaries!

by pat c Thu Nov 06, 2003 18:39

But has UCDSU sent a motion to them asking for action?

by The spirit of Jim Larkin Thu Nov 06, 2003 18:56

Can you tell us what's on the agenda, especially and specifically relating to the Anti bin tax campaign? And are the DCTU planning to do anything about the bin tax and the jailing of protesters? I know that you have to be careful and not prejudice anything that may be decided next Tuesday night, but at least give us some indication of what's going to happen on Tuesday please pat.

by UCDSU member Thu Nov 06, 2003 19:15

"[UCDSU] Council calls on the USI to organise a city centre demonstration calling for the release of the anti-bin tax protesters" - from the motion passed by a massive majorty by UCD's Class Reps.

It has been democratically passed by the USI's 'grassroots', ie the students and their Class Reps in UCD. I have also heard that UCDSU Officers have made contact with the USI and other SUs. At today's demonstration the President, Paul Dillon, made reference to USI having to act.

Message for Will Priestley: one of your members is in jail! An attack on one is an attack on all- organise action now!

by no voter Thu Nov 06, 2003 19:20

This time last year David Murphy voted No to the referendum in UCD to leave the USI. I wonder if Dave is regretting wasting his time camapigning for a No vote and wasting his money paying for the likes of Will Priestly to live off his Union dues.

by Anon Thu Nov 06, 2003 21:37

I think that Dave Murphy has far more important things on his mind now than your ridiculous comment.

by prober Thu Nov 06, 2003 22:40

Prob not really, prison is fairly boring!

by The spirit of Jim Larkin Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:23

Can you tell us will the bin tax be raised at the Dublin Council of Trade Unions (DCTU) meeting next Tuesday the 11th?
From what I've heard I think the Amalgamated Transport & General Workers Union (ATGWU) are lobbying for a march and work stoppage at next Tuesday's meeting. Just let us know is it worth having a lobby outside of the DCTU meeting in Liberty Hall next Tuesday? I know that you pat c with your union connections are a regular contributor to Indymedia as are some delegates to the DCTU such as Des Derwin and Paul Kinsella (You're both delegates so spill the beans). Don't move this to another story Indymedia till we've got an answer out of one of the above.

by 1 of Indymedia Ireland Editorial Group - Indymedia Ireland Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:31

It's not news and indymedia is not a bulletin board, so questions like this belong in the comments. I'm sure pat c will see it anyway, not much escapes him on indy.

by The spirit of Jim Larkin Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:38

Fair enough and you're right very little escapes good old pat c.

by Des Derwin - Member DCTU Executive Committee Fri Nov 07, 2003 17:05 dderwin at gofree dot indigo dot ie

There are two Motions on the bin charges on the Agenda for next Tuesday’s meeting (11th at 8.00 p.m.) of the Dublin Council of Trade Unions.
The first is from three unions, SIPTU, the TEEU and IMPACT:

“That the Dublin Council of Trade Unions establishes a forum on the proper financing of Local Authority Services, such as Domestic Refuse Collection, inviting Trade Unions, Political Parties and Community and Voluntary groups to present their analysis and recommend alternatives in the context of:
· promoting a fair and equitable Taxation policy
· recognising the social and economic value of providing these services through direct labour, and
· having regard to the social and economic requirement of effectively removing and disposing of waste safely and in the most environmentally friendly manner possible
with the objective of developing a policy platform and effective campaign strategy within an acceptable timeframe around which Trade Union and Community support can be rallied in the run up to the Local and European Elections in 2004.”

The second is from the ATGWU:

“This union condemns the jailing of a further three bin protestors today, in particular we express our outrage at the jailing of Ms. Brid Smith, an active member of the ATGWU for many years who also was one of our shop stewards. We call upon the ICTU, the Dublin Council of Trade Unions, to condemn all the jailings of anti-bin tax protestors. We will ask the Dublin Council of Trade Unions to organise a protest over these jailings in working time to bring this matter to a head. We also call on the Council to initiate a dialogue with the unions who represent workers in the Corporations and the Councils with a view to persuading them to lift all bins. We call upon the ICTU and the Dublin Council of Trades Unions to send a delegation immediately to the Taoiseach to demand his intervention in this dispute.”

Indymedia readers are well able to judge the merits of each Motion. As the first Motion has the support of three large unions, and delegates will be whipped, it is likely that it will be passed and the second will fall, or be rejected. In addition, the Executive Committee of the DCTU has taken the unusual and controversial step of recommending one of the two Motions (the first) to Tuesday’s meeting.

For the record I opposed the recommendation. Motions from unions usually go straight to the open Council meeting. (The TEEU Motion for the October 11th march was adopted and amended unanimously by the Executive Committee, and went to the open Council as an Executive Motion.) The recommendation was made also without time for Executive members to study both Motions properly.

The Dublin City Anti-Bin Tax Campaign also has a Motion they wish to put before the meeting. The procedures would make it very difficult to get it on the Agenda at this stage.

Due to other meetings I will not be able to attend on Tuesday.

by SIPTU member Fri Nov 07, 2003 17:46

I understand that you may have many meetings, and you are busy. But could you please clarify why the other meeting is more important than this Executive Committee meeting. I am supporting you for your election for Vice Presidency, so I'm not some SWPer having a go at you. There are 6 people in jail, most are Union members- yet the Union leadership are doing nothing.

by pat c Fri Nov 07, 2003 17:59

Des does not have to answer to anonymous questioners on Indymedia. He has the right to prioritise his meetings.

by Des Derwin Tue Nov 18, 2003 01:10

My posting under 'Super Tuesday' towards the end of the original thread (24th October)should explain why I could not attend the DCTU meeting.

by Des Derwin Tue Nov 18, 2003 01:15

25th October, not 24th