Fascist postering in Cork

by kokomero Tue Oct 07, 2003 14:03

... never pass a weed!

by uncle sam Tue Oct 07, 2003 14:16

what about socialist posters which posit outraegous theories. "1917 the revolution that ended the war". Trotsky, Lenin, Castro etc.
20 million corpses cant be wrong

by Mrs Doyle Tue Oct 07, 2003 14:23

what about... what about... what about... go on... go on... go on... and on... and on... and on...

by Observor Tue Oct 07, 2003 14:55

Up to 100 million died in repression and famines in the Stalinist States, USSR, China, North Korea, Poland, the list goes on. Trotskyists cannot be held totally responsible for this but those who refer to these dictatorships as Workerts States have questions to answer.

The Trotskyists can be held responsible for the repression which took place when Leon Trotsky held power.

by uncle sam Tue Oct 07, 2003 14:57

Where be my comments comparing one activist with another. Gone....Just like the vanishing commissars. I think we can see how true socialism operates. A selective reading indeed.

by 1 of Indymedia Ireland Editorial Group - Indymedia Ireland Tue Oct 07, 2003 14:59

And yours fell firmly into that category. If you want to make the point in a reasoned way, feel free. One line comments that merely insult will be removed.

by wtf Tue Oct 07, 2003 15:16

what about the comment listing the sites that are being used by the fascists. You have to be aware what these idiots are saying...but you let comments like 'what about... what about... what about... go on... go on... go on... and on... and on... and on...' remain. I think editorial powers are intoxicating

by Mike M. Tue Oct 07, 2003 15:21

I'm not sure if you're referring to my posting when you comment on a message saying what sites the fascists are using? If you are then you're mistaken. I didn't include the addresses of any of the sites and included the most prominent words on the posters only so as to facilitate their identification by people who might be inclined to tear them down.

by Mrs Doyle Tue Oct 07, 2003 15:25

I think that "what about..." etc. sums up the level of irrelevant, inward-looking, foot-stamping by obsessive anoraks on this and, sadly, many other threads. But then I would wouldn't I? Go out and get some fresh air for yourselves – go on... ah do, go on... go on...

by uncle sam Tue Oct 07, 2003 15:30

why can i not compare SWP activists and a skewed view of history to Brian Wallace and his ideas

by 1 of indymedia Ireland Editorial Group - Indymedia Ireland Tue Oct 07, 2003 15:40

is to delete any comments that include links to fascist sites.

by wtf Tue Oct 07, 2003 15:56

fair enough then. I just though it was important for people to realise that there is a communicating fascist network in the country using the internet etc. I was hoping some clever hacker person would go about bringing the sites down - same principle as ripping the posters on the street down.

by trotanon Tue Oct 07, 2003 17:18

Who do you think were the people killed by Stalin in the gulags? It was socialists wlike Trotsky who opposed the undemocratic takeover of the revolution.

by Cynic Tue Oct 07, 2003 17:19

You can always abuse republicans and be sure that you wont be deleted.The fair minded IMC Editorial Staff will always classify such trolling as reasonable criticism.I gave up on the Editorial List a long time ago. I could only take so much of the monumental Editor egos.

by Tom Tue Oct 07, 2003 18:08

...in Kanturk, Cork, there has been a billboard with a picture of a Mr. Proper type fellow folding his arms and looking mean. It says " Beware..." and has a Celtic cross on it. It is just outside the park, and there are young fellows in the park, with shaved heads and white shoelaces...

by Bob Dobalina Tue Oct 07, 2003 18:49

Throwing out a 20 million number is a wee bit on the vague side. Are you refering to the Ukraine? That 'genocide' has been pretty much debunked as facsist propaganda. I could give the references but I doubt that you are really interested. And what has Castro got to do with that?

Land reform in China by the commies pushed forward the entire Asian region.

All commies are collectively responsible for the guilt of the others?

Apply that to the capitalist world and there will be a lot more than 20 milliion corpses that the capitalists are collectively responsible for.

Famines don't happen in the capitalist world?

Starvation does not?

by Son of Risible Tue Oct 07, 2003 18:56

Does anyone really question the fact that Stalin and Mao were responsible for the deaths of tens of millions? Daddy, if anyone quried Hitlers holocaust you would delete it and I would be happy with my daddy. Why wont you expunge this Leninist holocaust denial?

by uncle sam Tue Oct 07, 2003 19:15

Bob Dobalina please provide all references. Hopefully web based to prove how like wallace you really are.
Mao advanced asian society? hahaha

by The Insider Tue Oct 07, 2003 19:21 Ennis

But the Holocaust definately did happen.

Denying the Holocaust is like denying the existance of Gerry Adams.

If anyone wants to read about Holocaust denial and hear the denier's points rebutted (easy to do) then I'd suggest Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman's book "Denying History".

Revisionism is a legitimate historical exercise, and takes place across all historical topics. As new evidence comes to light, we change our view of the past. But with holocaust denial, the evidence doesn't matter, and inconvenient evidence is simply ignored by the deniers.

by Nazi-Watcher Tue Oct 07, 2003 19:23

Just in case people haven't twigged: 'reo' ('revisionist eduction organisation') is none other than Brian Wallace, the Passage West neo-nazi. The membership runs into single figures: there's himself and...hmm...well, there's two sad cases (and jaysus are they sad!) who help him once in a blue moon in Cork, but they seem offside these days and ya'll never see them near a cooompuutor. Oh, and there's a numbskull who helps him occasionally in Dublin. Wallace basically works alone and ain't liked by the handful of other neo-nazis in Ireland, most of whom prefer to brag about the holocaust and exist almost wholly in cyberspace anyway. Anyways...moving along...

by 1 of Indymedia Ireland Editorial Group - Indymedia Ireland Tue Oct 07, 2003 20:51

Several comments have been deleted from this article as they were posted by a certain 'reo' who is a sad, unbalanced individual with an obsession for revisionism who seems to be a fascist. Every time that there is a thread on anything to do with israel or immigrants or fascists, he posts dozens of comments which are always deleted. He uses different names but the content is always much the same: along the lines of "you sad lefties are shit, you don't realise that it's all a big plot by the zionists," so you're not missing much. However, these posts will continue to be deleted as the Indymedia collective do not wish to put their labour into giving fascists a platform.

by uncle sam Tue Oct 07, 2003 21:25

thank god indy media and the swp/sp/mick barry brigade will always let us know who the real facists are and kindly censor thier vile opinions. Think what would happen if we had to dismiss things for ourselves.

by andy o Tue Oct 07, 2003 21:28

Nazi watcher , put an article together on wallace and publish here. It would be useful. or e mail me info at armalite19@hotmail.com
cheers

by Nazi-Watcher Tue Oct 07, 2003 23:32

I wonder sometimes if the 'free speech for holocaust deniers' brigade really understand that people like Wallace and his ilk are actually fully fledged neo-nazis. So, for your edification, below you will find an article written by Wallace that is currently posted on his holocaust denial website. Read it and then tell that this neo-nazi scumbag should be given space on indymedia!

Oh, indymedia editors, I reckon this is wide open to being deleted, but it might be a good idea to leave it up to give people a clear idea what this fucker stands for.



"'The Greatest Man who ever lived : Adolf Hitler' by Brian Wallace

If a less able man had been leading Germany in the 1930's Europe would have been bolshevised and tens of millions of the best of the goyim would have suffered the same fate as our brothers in eastern Europe where 66 million were victims of the judeo-bolshevicks.

What the Jews could not achieve with communism they are now completing with multiculturalism, you don't need the red army to murder and rape Europe into oblivion when you can brainwash our people with the mass media into stepping into a time warp by breeding with less evolved peoples from the third world. Multiculturalism is the destruction of the west and every westerner who defiles their race is opening the gates of troy and every atavistic outbreed who steps foot on our land is a Trojan horse .Indeed the mass media are the Homeric counterpart to the sirens with their malign encouragements to destruction.

Even with the benefit of hindsight there is little that Hitler could have done differently.Wagner was right , Europe is Herodom not Christendom, and the Third Reich will be forever basked in honour and glory in the minds of all free minded people. No amount of mass media brainwashing can erase the legacy of such an outpouring of bravery.

Western civilisation was set back centuries by the defeat of Europe by the Jews and their zombie legions, saturated with mass produced hate propaganda. Thanks to the internet Hitler's final prophecy is coming true :"My spirit will rise from the grave and the world shall know I was right"

I myself was always perplexed about the court Historian version of WW2 and I was amazed when I read the articles of the IHR and other revisionist sources. It had not occurred to me that our society was corrupt enough to allow the wholesale falsification of History. Media power sucks in information about the political power it protects and serves, just as a black hole sucks in light. The centres of the evil vortices are New York and Tel Aviv.

I swore vengeance and I swear I will not rest until History is back on course and Westerners are not slaves to fatten Oriental parasites and once again there is justice on Earth.

Morally the nazis won the war and the Jews want to be Nazis More than anything, they bring Blonde Russians to Israel to mix with, and Jewish actors caricature nazis in Hollywood prop-films .Within the next twenty years there will be a revolution in the west and a final reckoning between us and the Jews ,one way or the other History is coming to a turning point, either the death of the west and mongrelisation and materialism setting in forever, or a renaissance.

In our inverted society the average voter is truly lower than an animal, for if dogs and cats could argue, they would surely say, we may not be able to send cats and dogs to the moon or do calculus , yet we never believed in the gas chambers ,surely people who wholeheartedly believe in such sinister objects after hearing the revisionist case are lower than any animal, what howling inadequacy within them does the dysgenic myth appeal to?

The holocaust is the mythological equivalent of the atom bomb. A total myth for a era of total war, a total destruction of thousands of years of some kind of grip on reality in the west. The holocaust is one of the most potent inventions since the wheel, it allows a sham democracy to exist , the slaves really think that they can vote and it means something (less and less are fooled) while the real opposition is banned by taboo based on falsified history. They could understand if they were slaves to dictate ,but slavery to such subtlety eludes them altogether. A new feudalism , a caste system based on inverted status exists with free thinking white men on the bottom. The Jews and their collaborators form the upper caste in the west just as the Brahmans do in India. The English speaking world is a de-facto Jewish empire now ,and I take my hat off to the Jews for conquering the world.

The intellectual prostitutes who call themselves historians and who poison the mind of our young people in the knocking shops called universities, know the truth. They know it and hate it and fear its resurgence, they don't like the rock under which they hide lifted. We will have to ask ourselves hard questions about how it was possible for so many traitors to come from our race and how to cancel the future births of cowards and vermin like them. A lot of our people are just stupid meat on the hoof, almost goyim of the gate in their acceptance of so many leftwing dogmas that a few years ago would have been dreams in the minds of Trotskyites and cultural Marxists.

Religion is a projection of man's own psychology onto the universe. People worship aspects of themselves. Angels and Devils are real in this sense(super-rational but not super-natural ,I recommend Spengler to you), and medieval Christianity was a least right in its depictions of Angels as blonde Nordics and Devils as Semitic or Turkic.

"Spirits and demons, as I have shown in the last essay, are only projections of man's own emotional impulses. He turns his emotional cathexes into persons, he peoples the world with them and meets his internal mental processes again outside himself."Freud from "Totem and Taboo"

Adolf Hitler took Germany at her darkest hour and saved Europe from the diabolic schemes of people like Ilya Ehrenburg. Only Time will tell if he will go down in history as the leader of the last stand of the white race or as the founder of a new pure juden-frei western civilisation picking up where the Greeks left off.

The History of the last 2200 years has been the history of the poisoning of the Greek legacy by interaction with these terrible Talmudists. We need men like Hitler now , an army of such men will be necessary to free the west from the forces of retardation, materialism and atavism on earth."

by The Insider Wed Oct 08, 2003 00:01

Are looking for publicity first and foremost. They wish to be seen as "the other side" in the "debate on whether the Holocaust really happened".

Of course, most people realise that in most debates in life, history, politics or whatever, there are two sides. But in this case it's like a "debate" on whether Gerry Adams really exists. The mere idea that such a debate could be seriously entertained is laughable.

It is absurd, and these Holocaust Deniers know that, but the truth is being subordinated to a political agenda here - the rehabilitation of Naziism and Fascism. Remove the Holocaust, and suddenly Hitler wasn't all that bad. If Hitler wasn't too bad, then maybe Le Pen and Haider aren't too bad...

by hawk-eye Wed Oct 08, 2003 00:39

It is impossible to see the Hitler fetishists as a serious political movement. Why pick an irrelevant and useless political failure and pretend to be his followers? These people are just putting on a show of machismo - makes it easier to deflect attention away from the fact that the "white aryan" & "neo-nazi" movment is just a convenient cover for organised child abusers.

by Millies Good, nazis bad Wed Oct 08, 2003 00:48

Hitler was the epitomy of uber capitalism, at the heart of his motives for hating Jews and libertarians, was GREED, pure and simple.

Hitler wanted the property, the wealth, the power and jewellery of Jews and anyone else that he could rob.

Adolf's concentration camps were based on NO WAGE slave labour, and many of todays mulitnational companies such as IG Faben, used the slave labour of Jews and others to save on overheads and make profits for their companies. Concentration camp inmates were starved and beaten, as these greedy companies wanted to save money. Today we see the third world peoples enslaved, working in appalling conditions for pittance.

Adolf pioneered the use of human beings as slaves, as guinea pigs to experiment on, to sadistically abuse and degrade.

by workers arise Wed Oct 08, 2003 01:03

just wondering who is Brian Wallace/David Noone ??

didnt hear of them before.

by Nazi-watcher Wed Oct 08, 2003 01:09

We know that Hitler was a piece of shit; stick to the point, which is that these holocaust deniers are neo-nazi propagandists and not advocates of freedom of thought and speech (which is how some eejits chose to see them).

Brain Wallace of Lucia Place in Passage West is a scumbag neo-nazi and not 'one side of a rational debate'. I agree totally with comment from Insider on that!

by Nazi-Watcher Wed Oct 08, 2003 01:14

Brian Wallace is David Noone (which was his pre-adoption name). He started using the name David Noone some time back to avoid identification but..emm...didn't work, cos at this stage we could tell you the colour of his underwear.

by FelixMac Wed Oct 08, 2003 01:24

Plenty of details on Cork-based Brian Wallace aka David Noone, former UCD maths student, college dropout, whacky loner and loser, adopted child. His fascination for Nazi revisionism seems to follow from his natural mother's rejection of him after he tracked him down some years ago. Claims his natural father was from Galway but there are suggestions that he was from Algeria.

Photos available at: related link: http://www.indymedia.ie/newswire.php?story_id=31148&type_id=all&search_text=Wallace&search_comments=on&results_offset=20

I've previously posted on Wallace, so this is for those of who still in the dark about this idiot.

Wallace in his own words:

UCC Maths Society webpage (http://www.ucc.ie/mathsoc/guestbook00.html)

G13636 (Wed Apr 25 11:22:47 IST 2001)
name: brian wallace
email: brianewallace@hotmail.com
comment: hello everyone remember me
im up in ucd,
in a class with two annoying idiots

G29060 (Thu May 17 10:40:24 /etc/localtime 2001)
name: brian wallace
email: brianewallace@hotmail.com
comment: college degrees are ways for bourgeois
idiots
to pass themselves off as intellectuals
relying on linear memory rather than on
logarithmic problem solving difference
between individuals
also thanks to the leaving
irish universities are full
of marys and fairies
for example im the only hetero in
my class of three

G29015 (Tue May 22 09:35:34 /etc/localtime 2001)
name: brian wallace
email: brianewallace@hotmail.com
comment: i am currently down in cork nearly got beaten up in paul st yesterday by a loon anyway some of the most intelligent students ive met didnt go to college at all because the leaving cert is such an insult to a persons manhood i personnally found it so boring i drank most of the two years and only did enough to get in to college by staying away from school for the last two months and studying at home the education system in ireland is rotten on every level and there is no culture of criticism

More postings from Wallace. This time from the RootWeb genealogy page (http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/GENIRE/2001-06/0991668007). Read and you'll see how he can claim to have an Italian father but an Irish surname. I'll leave it up to you to draw conclusions, but the guy really has problems and issues with himself.
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From: brianewallace@hotmail.com (brian wallace)
Subject: ireland is disgusting
Date: 4 Jun 2001 08:20:07 -0700

believe it or not i found my mother through persistent use of a search engine in fact google was the crucial one,showing a commitee my mother was on enabling me to make a very important phone call. it has taken me 4+ years to get here
mainly because the catholic church acts as a parallel state in ireland. they told me nothing but lies for years. the whole story is shocking
i only managed to get my birth cert this year by detective work going through a list of all children born in 1975 and finding those with the same birthday, and with the mother and childs surname the same(this is generally an indication that the child was born outside marraige). believe it or not half! of all children born outside marraige in ireland in the 1975 were 'given up'for adoption,and that wasnt the peak year women didnt have much choice as thanks to the catholic church there was no single mothers payment until the 1980's. decades later than most western countries youd think this would be an issue in a modern country but ireland still is in the grip of the pope,even poland now has abortion ireland is a country riddled with bigotry where most schools are church owned
and the church owns almost as much property as the state. ireland-sucks@yahoogroups.com

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From: brianewallace@hotmail.com (brian wallace)
Subject: Re: ireland is disgusting
Date: 5 Jun 2001 01:25:26 -0700

adoption was never an alternative to abortion
irish women have travelled to england since abortion came there to
teminate their unwanted pregnancies
women who have their children adopted generally wanted to keep them
but due to financial circumstances are unable to
that is why since single mothers payments were brought in adoptions in
ireland nosedived down to the present where
they have buy children from poor eastern european women
adoption is about power and exploitation
like slavery alays has been
all those blacks sent from africa to work on plantations were
'unwanted 'people
in their own lands

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From: brianewallace@hotmail.com (brian wallace)
Subject: Re: ireland is disgusting
Date: 15 Jun 2001 11:33:33 -0700

all those other religeons dont have any influence in the state in the way the catholic church has
the fact is if i was an adoptee looking in england the whole thing would have taken me 4 days instead of 4 + years.
im going to take them to court in sep when i get organised as for that person from scotland ,youd be suprised what you can find out. it took me a while to develop detective skills. i found my mother using google although i found her address monthe ago. i found her work place through the search engine. in one week after i had her name i had found her address. most of the years were wasted as the people from the catholic church lied and procrastinated most people would find the whole thing too intimidating. direland will never be other than the butt of jokes until there is constuctive criticism. i recommend the discussion adoptionireland@yahoogroups.com
i just want to emigrate as soon as i can
if you look at the website for the irish adoption board www.adoptionboard.ie they completely ignore the existence of people like me even though they have recived thousands of enquiries


Wallace admits himself that he is a fascist and has joined a US neo-Nazi organisation:

Source: Ireland First! website (http://www.eirefirst.com/cgi-bin/board/board.pl?do=brd&id=1)

"genocide of irish by nigerian plantation
By: wal On: 09/07/02 05:10 AM (#1) [Reply]
some people are doing something about it.
www.nsrus.com www.imigrationcontrol.org
www.nsm88.com
i have joined the nazis myself as i know who is behind multiculturalism"

by Nazi-Watcher Wed Oct 08, 2003 01:34

Seen all this and worse. He actually claims that his father was a an Italian engineering student who met his mother briefly in London but, seriously, that part of his life is only relevant insofar as it obsessed him for a number of years, made him extremely bitter, and left him consumed by hatreds of all sorts. He's a fucked up person. So was Hitler, of course, and I'm beyond feeling sorry for Wallace.

by Giraldus Cambrensis Wed Oct 08, 2003 14:53

Just a friendly word in your ear.

It's 2 words: Ad hominem

by Mike M. Wed Oct 08, 2003 18:23

What exactly is your point Abdulla? The imam of a mosque is revisionist in outlook and therefore the left has to change? The view of a muslim cleric is of such consequence that we must adjust to meet the "reality" it represents?

And what is your point about Israel's foundation? Do you imagine that the left is fanatically Zionist? Have you looked at any of the postings here on Israel/Palestine?


I think the key thing is that the holocaust happened, fascism exists as a political/social philosophy and when allowed to organise it leads to physical attacks on minorities and the left.

Therefore we have a responsiblity to stop it from organising.

Therefore we tear down their advertisements/posters wherever we find them.

by Ali H. Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:48

The only unique thing about the holocaust has been the Zionist's ability to exploit this lamentably frequent occurence in human history to fulfil their own political agenda, ie that of stealing land from the Palestinians and ethnically cleansing palestine.

The unfortunate Jewish Europeans who died were preceeded and succeded by 10s if not hundreds of millions throughout history including Russians and Armenians before them and Chinese, Cambodians, East Timorese and Rwandans since them to name but a few of the cases of genocide in history.

None of these other victims of genocide have, however, attempted to exploit the fate of their dead bretheren, turning it into an industry.

If anything the Zionists have been shamefully silent on other acts of genocide preferring to exploit the promised land of moral high-ground for themselves and prevent all other victims of genocide from having any recognition.

Neither has any other nation made a religion out of the number of people killed, whereas the Zionists would take issue with anybody who claimed 5,999,999 Jews were killed, when if even one human being is killed it is one too many!

The number now has a quasi-divine status whereby it is tantamount to heresy to call it into question.

This figure is quite unique in the history of mathematics and human endeavour in its absoluteness, and ought to be the beneficiary of the a Noble prize.

Obviously there is no such thing as a Zionist statistician or mathematician who would have quoted 6 million +/- some statistical error, dispensing with all of the controversy which has dogged the number ever since it was first put to paper.

This will never happen as for the Zionists to admit any statistical variation would be unthinkable as it would open the first chink in the apartheid wall surrounding the promised land of the moral high-ground, allowing 10s/100s of millions others with equal claim to enter!

by Mr. Magoo - the magoolies Thu Oct 09, 2003 14:29

Observer, are you also Seanin, AKA Dairius McGann of Drogheda?

by Uncle sam Thu Oct 09, 2003 15:55

what about noones fellow travellers anyone have any info....hyland etc

by sammy Thu Oct 09, 2003 17:48

The greatest facist org in Ireland in the past thrity years have been the IRA. Attempting to impose their will by brutal force , following a sectarian agenda, ruthlessly supressing dissent, electoral fraud, these are the hall marks of facism. You dont need to deny the holocaust or get the right tatoos to be a facist.
Violence and supression of freedoms are all that is required.
For the shinners to have all these anti-facist wings is laughable. NaFianna eireann are the hitler youth, military uniforms, drilling etc.
Also, using violence to supress percieved facists, as is the M.O. of these 'anti' groups is an inherent contradiction.
Modern day facists are not going to advertise thier existence or even acklowedge their hypocricy. Expose them for what they are.
The AFA is a far greater threat to Irish freedom than a lone cork nut job

by kokomero Thu Oct 09, 2003 18:03

Substitute UDA/UFF/LVF/Red-Hand Commando and the PUP for the IRA and Sinn Fein and you'll be closer to the point Sammy.

The loyalists have long-standing links with combat 18 and other facist and neo-nazi organisations, and were great friends with the yarpies and other white supremacists everywhere, as a look at Billy Wright or Johnny Adair would tell any sane person.

by sammy Thu Oct 09, 2003 18:08

u miss the point. who is excusing loyalist s here??????
Thanks for proving the inability of people to discern that facists come in all shapes and sizes.

by Leon Thu Dec 15, 2005 14:37

get rid of that stuff lads its too invasive.

I'm mixed race myself (so's Brian) and I really feel sorry for the poor fucker, I mean you can be black and Irish, but you can't wish yourself white.

By all means we have to take these people on but I can't accept that this poor nutter is any sort of threat.

L

by Mikey Thu Feb 09, 2006 21:02

I think your man is the most far right guy living in ireland, and i consider my self to be moderate right wing. I think the guy is bent on upsetting the socialist people.