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category dublin | anti-capitalism | news report author Monday November 22, 2004 13:24author by Mark Murphy - Marxism 2004author email info at swp dot ie

Here is the debate

Lawrence Cox debates with
SWP’s Kieran Allen
this weekend in Trinity College on ‘Does the Movement need
Political Parties’.

The debate is part of a wider conference,
Marxism 2004, which is organized by Trinity College SWSS.

Lawrence Cox was one of the spokespersons for the Dublin
Grassroots Network during the Mayday protests last year. He
has written extensively about the need to develop inclusive social
movements.

Kieran Allen s a member of the Irish Anti-War Movement and
has played a key role in advocating a strategy of mass
resistance. He describes himself as a revolutionary socialist and
has been deeply involved in t Marxist movement for many years.
He argues that the ant capitalist movement and revolutionary
socialist parties need to work hand in hand.

Many of the themes of this debate have surfaced on Indy media
over the years – though sometimes marred by abusive,
personalized and anonymous commentary.

Marxism 2003 provides an opportunity to get out from behind
the comparer screen and engage with the issues in a live debate.

Tickets for Marxism 2004 can be booked in advance by
phoning 01 87226872 or by e mailing ../mailto:info@swp.ie.

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go go allons! vaya! esperantuuuu! lawrence.
author by ;-)publication date Mon Nov 22, 2004 14:06author address author phone

:-)

question
author by Bongopublication date Mon Nov 22, 2004 14:42author address author phone

Sounds great. Can anyone attend the debate, or do we have to have tickets for the whole weekend?

Marxism 2004 URL
author by Marxism 2004 - SWPpublication date Mon Nov 22, 2004 16:53author email info at swp dot ieauthor address author phone

Full details of the conference can be found at:

http://www.marxism2004.net

Tickets can be bought pre session, day or for the whole weekend.

Thanks

Kieran Allen 3x
author by Kieran Allen Fan Clubpublication date Mon Nov 22, 2004 17:27author address author phone

The Kieran Allen Tribute Band playing:

"Does the movement need political parties?" - 27th November
Kieran Allen vs Laurence Cox

"From factorys to Call Centres: Is the Irish Working Class Changing?" - 28th November
Kieran Allen vs Kieran Allen

"Building a New Left in Ireland" - 28th November
Karen McCormack vs Kieran Allen and Rory Hearne

insult to advertise
author by pcpublication date Mon Nov 22, 2004 17:28author address author phone

I like that, insult people and the system you're advertising on to get them to come to your event nice...



"Out from behind the Computer Screen: "

Is there a second timetable somewhere?
author by Raypublication date Mon Nov 22, 2004 17:33author address author phone

I can't find Kevin Wingfield's talk on "Jesus: The First Socialist?" anywhere.

I tend to spend my spare time IN FRONT OF my computer screen
author by eeekkkpublication date Mon Nov 22, 2004 18:21author address author phone

Much nicer than behind - try it sometime folks - If you are under 18 make sure an adult is present

how much is one session?
author by young anarchistpublication date Tue Nov 23, 2004 17:47author address author phone

how much is it just to get into this session alone? its the only one I am interested in attending

just to say...
author by Laurence Coxpublication date Wed Nov 24, 2004 01:07author address author phone

The blurb's a bit misleading - I'm not speaking for Dublin Grassroots in any way. Tried to make that clear when I was asked to speak, but it looks as though it got lost in transmission.

Just thought that was worth mentioning for DGN participants, who might otherwise wonder where this was coming from - part of being in a non-hierarchical organisation is that you don't tend to find people speaking on your behalf unless you've agreed what they're going to say.

Latest Marxism 2004 timetable
author by E - SWPpublication date Wed Nov 24, 2004 11:39author email info at swp dot ieauthor address author phone

Laurence,

the latest Marxism 2004 timetable is now available at

http://www.swp.ie/html/marxism2004/Marxism%202004%20Timetable.doc

and your meeting with Kieran Allen has you down as a member of the DGN and not as a spokeman or as anyone in a "leadership" position as you may be suggesting. Sorry for any mistunderstanding.

Thanks

Related Link: http://www.marxism2004.net
Correction
author by Kevin Wingfield - SWPpublication date Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:35author email info at swp dot ieauthor address author phone

We are happy to confirm that Laurence Cox is not speaking on behalf of GRN but in an individual capacity. Following a request from Laurence I have asked the Indymedia editors to correct the possible ambiguity.
With that out of the way the debate between two activists from different perpectives will I am sure be of interest to many who follow discussion on this site and elsewhere.
Hope to see you there.
Kevin Wingfield SWP

The meeting details have been amended.
author by Indymedia Ireland Editorial Group - Indymedia Irelandpublication date Wed Nov 24, 2004 14:44author address author phone

As per the requests from Laurence Cox and the SWP.

Marxism 2004
author by Webmaster - SWPpublication date Wed Nov 24, 2004 21:46author email webmaster at swp dot ieauthor address author phone

Laurence,

The Marxism 2004 meeing with you and Kieran has been updated to reflect your request.

Thanks

http://www.marxism2004.net

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